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Re: Molyneux on Ruben Report. DeFOO and Cultism Discussed.
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2017, 06:53:08 PM »
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That false outrage and sadness at IQ differences in part 2 is hilarious --" It's just unbelievably heartbreaking. "This is one of the most difficult facts I've ever had to absorb in my life." I'd give my left arm for it to just be racism." He's so sad and heartbroken about it that he's done numerous shows exclusively highlighting IQ differences.

Right because it's true, you don't stop telling the truth simply because some people like yourself find it offensive.

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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2017, 08:08:42 PM »
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Kronos, you’re credulous. If you can watch a puff piece interview and find it to be irrefutable evidence of Stef’s credibility then there really isn’t anything to say. You’ve picked you’re YouTube philosopher and by god you’re sticking with him. Enjoy! I hope you climb out of his misanthropic pit in the future. A good start would be to start thinking critically about his content and claims, rather than swooning at his brilliance. But it doesn’t seem likely you’re ready to do that.

Bro I fact check the guy and I've watched both his old stuff and new stuff.  I don't understand the problem you guys have with him.  It's irrational as hell and seems to be all based on emotions.


Is it all emotions ?

I find Stefan extremely emotional.

If he were just observing the world and telling it how it is about IQ.

Why isn't he discouraging low IQ whites from having kids, why isn't he encouraging asians to have more kids ?

Why doesn't he simply push for immigration based on IQ instead of race ?

He is taking advantage of the muhh white culture people for his own economical gain.


I don't deny IQ differences.
But any person who isn't completely autistic would recognize that you don't go from some races have lower average IQs to "muuh white culture" and turn semi religious.


I expect you to have some rationalization for everything I said.
I don't expect to change your mind, this is for others reading this thread.

Possible responses.
Brown people who have high IQ will eventually regress to the mean.
This is highly debatable if that were true then evolution wouldn't work as we expect it to.

Please go donate to Stefan and Save the West !
Don't waist your time here.

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Re: Molyneux on Ruben Report. DeFOO and Cultism Discussed.
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2017, 08:20:54 PM »
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Kronos, you’re credulous. If you can watch a puff piece interview and find it to be irrefutable evidence of Stef’s credibility then there really isn’t anything to say. You’ve picked you’re YouTube philosopher and by god you’re sticking with him. Enjoy! I hope you climb out of his misanthropic pit in the future. A good start would be to start thinking critically about his content and claims, rather than swooning at his brilliance. But it doesn’t seem likely you’re ready to do that.

Bro I fact check the guy and I've watched both his old stuff and new stuff.  I don't understand the problem you guys have with him.  It's irrational as hell and seems to be all based on emotions.

If that's true then you have terrible fact checking abilities. Stef's narratives fall apart with the smallest amount of genuine critical review. The problem I have with Molyneux stem from the fact that he is a predatory ideologue peddling bipartisan nonsense on YouTube using cultish techniques. That is how Stef is recognized by the wider world, outside of his ideological pit.

Have you never felt there is something off that the world's most popular 'philosopher' spends his time posting political rants on YouTube or discussing issues with figures like Mike Cernovich and Ann Coulter?

The sad reality is that Stef isn't some towering intellectual giant, he is just a narcissistic pseudo-intellectual producing daily click bait rants on YouTube that pander to his audience's biases. I understand why people following him don't want to recognise such a reality, but it doesn't make it any less true.

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Re: Molyneux on Ruben Report. DeFOO and Cultism Discussed.
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2017, 08:46:33 PM »
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Kronos, you’re credulous. If you can watch a puff piece interview and find it to be irrefutable evidence of Stef’s credibility then there really isn’t anything to say. You’ve picked you’re YouTube philosopher and by god you’re sticking with him. Enjoy! I hope you climb out of his misanthropic pit in the future. A good start would be to start thinking critically about his content and claims, rather than swooning at his brilliance. But it doesn’t seem likely you’re ready to do that.

Bro I fact check the guy and I've watched both his old stuff and new stuff.  I don't understand the problem you guys have with him.  It's irrational as hell and seems to be all based on emotions.


Is it all emotions ?

I find Stefan extremely emotional.

If he were just observing the world and telling it how it is about IQ.

Why isn't he discouraging low IQ whites from having kids, why isn't he encouraging asians to have more kids ?

Why doesn't he simply push for immigration based on IQ instead of race ?

He is taking advantage of the muhh white culture people for his own economical gain.


I don't deny IQ differences.
But any person who isn't completely autistic would recognize that you don't go from some races have lower average IQs to "muuh white culture" and turn semi religious.


I expect you to have some rationalization for everything I said.
I don't expect to change your mind, this is for others reading this thread.

Possible responses.
Brown people who have high IQ will eventually regress to the mean.
This is highly debatable if that were true then evolution wouldn't work as we expect it to.

Please go donate to Stefan and Save the West !
Don't waist your time here.

(Daddy needs another million)

You tell me.

What does Stef being emotional have to do with anything??

He's encouraging everyone who practices peaceful parenting to have kids because that leads to the best possible chance of having health minded children.  He's not discouraging low-iq parents of any race to not have kids.  He does say that peaceful parenting can lead to higher IQ's though

Stef doesn't push for immigration based on race.

No he's not, he doesn't endorse white separatism.

He's not religious, he simply states what Christianity has led to.  Basically western civilization.   This is simply a fact.  When does he talk about "muh white culture?".  Actually if you watch some of his videos he points out the fact that Asians parents are usually more peaceful than white parents. 

No I've actually really enjoyed this latest comment from you, it was good I must admit.  I'd love to continue.

When we are talking about a bell curve I think it has more to do with families than it does with that given race.  There could be a high IQ person in a given person's family but it will regress back to the mean.  I don't think race works like that.


LMAO that's funny, so you don't think many countries in Europe are having problems because of third world immigration??  I guess you're one of those people that deny no go zones??  Despite videos of people actually being inside them.  I have no problem with immigration hell I think immigration is a good thing.  However we need to be smarter when it comes to immigration.  Especially when countries have a welfare state.  Would you be so care free about it if this was happening in another continent oh wait it is, it's Africa.  You don't care about Muslims destroying Africa??  You don't think that's a problem??  I know Europeans don't matter to you but what about the Africans??  You don't think we should learn from their mistakes??  Honestly at this point it's not so much about a specific culture it's simply wanting to avoid Islamic culture.  Hell let's bring Asian culture over here or quality culture from South America or Africa. Let's bring them in.  Why Islam??  With all the destruction it causes.  At the very least why not have better vetting in Europe?? In terms of Islam America has done pretty well. Let's not end up like Europe or even worse Africa.  Is that so much to ask??? Or racist??

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Re: Molyneux on Ruben Report. DeFOO and Cultism Discussed.
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2017, 09:06:08 PM »
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Kronos, you’re credulous. If you can watch a puff piece interview and find it to be irrefutable evidence of Stef’s credibility then there really isn’t anything to say. You’ve picked you’re YouTube philosopher and by god you’re sticking with him. Enjoy! I hope you climb out of his misanthropic pit in the future. A good start would be to start thinking critically about his content and claims, rather than swooning at his brilliance. But it doesn’t seem likely you’re ready to do that.

Bro I fact check the guy and I've watched both his old stuff and new stuff.  I don't understand the problem you guys have with him.  It's irrational as hell and seems to be all based on emotions.

If that's true then you have terrible fact checking abilities. Stef's narratives fall apart with the smallest amount of genuine critical review. The problem I have with Molyneux stem from the fact that he is a predatory ideologue peddling bipartisan nonsense on YouTube using cultish techniques. That is how Stef is recognized by the wider world, outside of his ideological pit.

Have you never felt there is something off that the world's most popular 'philosopher' spends his time posting political rants on YouTube or discussing issues with figures like Mike Cernovich and Ann Coulter?

The sad reality is that Stef isn't some towering intellectual giant, he is just a narcissistic pseudo-intellectual producing daily click bait rants on YouTube that pander to his audience's biases. I understand why people following him don't want to recognise such a reality, but it doesn't make it any less true.

You keep mumbling off a lot without actually saying much?  Why is my fact checking terrible?? Because I haven't come to your conclusion??  Oh yeah please give me an example of this critical analyses that makes Stef's arguments fall apart.

You may not like his techniques and some may think he's cultish but the only thing that matters is the truth.  Is what is he saying true??  I've heard others say they don't like his "spin". Okay that's fine but a spin is comply an opinion of the factual data.  Something no one here has been able to dispute.  He has not lied about the facts or data.  You just simply don't like the way he views the data.  I don't see how him having a different view then you makes him some awful guy.

No I doubt, I don't have a problem with people discussing topics with anyone.  Whether it's a communists, socialist, nazi, conservative, alt-right I don't care.  We should be discussing views and events with everyone.  No matter how radical they are or offensive they are too some.  Personally I have no problem with either of those two.  I wouldn't say i really admire them like I do with Stef but I have no major beef with them.

That's your opinion and just like Stef you have every right to have it.  Even if I completely disagree.  However unlike I'm not going to go around trying to make you seem like some evil narcissistic person simply because we have different views.  Even if you do slander Stef a little much.  For the record I could say the same thing to you.  You simply despise what Stef has to say because of your biases.

If you actually gave me some legitimate evidence to why Stef is such a bad guy I'd buy it. However you have done nothing of the sort.

Stef has got a whole group of people (people like you) watching and sharing his videos around the internet as he tells his listeners to do and you don't think Stef is some intellectual giant??  LMAO okay, you're doing exactly what he wants and you probably don't even realize it.

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Re: Molyneux on Ruben Report. DeFOO and Cultism Discussed.
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2017, 09:20:34 PM »
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Kronos, you’re credulous. If you can watch a puff piece interview and find it to be irrefutable evidence of Stef’s credibility then there really isn’t anything to say. You’ve picked you’re YouTube philosopher and by god you’re sticking with him. Enjoy! I hope you climb out of his misanthropic pit in the future. A good start would be to start thinking critically about his content and claims, rather than swooning at his brilliance. But it doesn’t seem likely you’re ready to do that.

Bro I fact check the guy and I've watched both his old stuff and new stuff.  I don't understand the problem you guys have with him.  It's irrational as hell and seems to be all based on emotions.


Is it all emotions ?

I find Stefan extremely emotional.

If he were just observing the world and telling it how it is about IQ.

Why isn't he discouraging low IQ whites from having kids, why isn't he encouraging asians to have more kids ?

Why doesn't he simply push for immigration based on IQ instead of race ?

He is taking advantage of the muhh white culture people for his own economical gain.


I don't deny IQ differences.
But any person who isn't completely autistic would recognize that you don't go from some races have lower average IQs to "muuh white culture" and turn semi religious.


I expect you to have some rationalization for everything I said.
I don't expect to change your mind, this is for others reading this thread.

Possible responses.
Brown people who have high IQ will eventually regress to the mean.
This is highly debatable if that were true then evolution wouldn't work as we expect it to.

Please go donate to Stefan and Save the West !
Don't waist your time here.

(Daddy needs another million)

You tell me.

What does Stef being emotional have to do with anything??

He's encouraging everyone who practices peaceful parenting to have kids because that leads to the best possible chance of having health minded children.  He's not discouraging low-iq parents of any race to not have kids.  He does say that peaceful parenting can lead to higher IQ's though

Stef doesn't push for immigration based on race.

No he's not, he doesn't endorse white separatism.

He's not religious, he simply states what Christianity has led to.  Basically western civilization.   This is simply a fact.  When does he talk about "muh white culture?".  Actually if you watch some of his videos he points out the fact that Asians parents are usually more peaceful than white parents. 

No I've actually really enjoyed this latest comment from you, it was good I must admit.  I'd love to continue.

When we are talking about a bell curve I think it has more to do with families than it does with that given race.  There could be a high IQ person in a given person's family but it will regress back to the mean.  I don't think race works like that.


LMAO that's funny, so you don't think many countries in Europe are having problems because of third world immigration??  I guess you're one of those people that deny no go zones??  Despite videos of people actually being inside them.  I have no problem with immigration hell I think immigration is a good thing.  However we need to be smarter when it comes to immigration.  Especially when countries have a welfare state.  Would you be so care free about it if this was happening in another continent oh wait it is, it's Africa.  You don't care about Muslims destroying Africa??  You don't think that's a problem??  I know Europeans don't matter to you but what about the Africans??  You don't think we should learn from their mistakes??  Honestly at this point it's not so much about a specific culture it's simply wanting to avoid Islamic culture.  Hell let's bring Asian culture over here or quality culture from South America or Africa. Let's bring them in.  Why Islam??  With all the destruction it causes.  At the very least why not have better vetting in Europe?? In terms of Islam America has done pretty well. Let's not end up like Europe or even worse Africa.  Is that so much to ask??? Or racist??


You truley are ignorant.

He is not religious but he constantly praises christians and cries.
Now a big chunk of his listners go to church.

He has said that spanking does lower iq but he also has said that spanking a high iq child will give you a good piano player but spanking a low iq (black) child will give you a predator.
He says a lot of things. Pick whatever makes you feel good.

People like you will deny that stefan is dog whisling.
https://youtu.be/XOi5D9YcKOI
You say he is not racist but he pretty much has all the racist talking points.
His listners are racist because they ummm understand the meaning and are not autistic like you.
Racist wont admit it they always have a reason.
Science truth evidence.

Your right stefan doesnt out right say I want immigration by race.
But he implies it and  covers his ass by saying some bs before he makes a statement so people like you can feel good about supporing him.

Keep drinking the cool aid !
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Re: Molyneux on Ruben Report. DeFOO and Cultism Discussed.
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2017, 09:40:24 PM »
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Kronos, you’re credulous. If you can watch a puff piece interview and find it to be irrefutable evidence of Stef’s credibility then there really isn’t anything to say. You’ve picked you’re YouTube philosopher and by god you’re sticking with him. Enjoy! I hope you climb out of his misanthropic pit in the future. A good start would be to start thinking critically about his content and claims, rather than swooning at his brilliance. But it doesn’t seem likely you’re ready to do that.

Bro I fact check the guy and I've watched both his old stuff and new stuff.  I don't understand the problem you guys have with him.  It's irrational as hell and seems to be all based on emotions.


Is it all emotions ?

I find Stefan extremely emotional.

If he were just observing the world and telling it how it is about IQ.

Why isn't he discouraging low IQ whites from having kids, why isn't he encouraging asians to have more kids ?

Why doesn't he simply push for immigration based on IQ instead of race ?

He is taking advantage of the muhh white culture people for his own economical gain.


I don't deny IQ differences.
But any person who isn't completely autistic would recognize that you don't go from some races have lower average IQs to "muuh white culture" and turn semi religious.


I expect you to have some rationalization for everything I said.
I don't expect to change your mind, this is for others reading this thread.

Possible responses.
Brown people who have high IQ will eventually regress to the mean.
This is highly debatable if that were true then evolution wouldn't work as we expect it to.

Please go donate to Stefan and Save the West !
Don't waist your time here.

(Daddy needs another million)

You tell me.

What does Stef being emotional have to do with anything??

He's encouraging everyone who practices peaceful parenting to have kids because that leads to the best possible chance of having health minded children.  He's not discouraging low-iq parents of any race to not have kids.  He does say that peaceful parenting can lead to higher IQ's though

Stef doesn't push for immigration based on race.

No he's not, he doesn't endorse white separatism.

He's not religious, he simply states what Christianity has led to.  Basically western civilization.   This is simply a fact.  When does he talk about "muh white culture?".  Actually if you watch some of his videos he points out the fact that Asians parents are usually more peaceful than white parents. 

No I've actually really enjoyed this latest comment from you, it was good I must admit.  I'd love to continue.

When we are talking about a bell curve I think it has more to do with families than it does with that given race.  There could be a high IQ person in a given person's family but it will regress back to the mean.  I don't think race works like that.


LMAO that's funny, so you don't think many countries in Europe are having problems because of third world immigration??  I guess you're one of those people that deny no go zones??  Despite videos of people actually being inside them.  I have no problem with immigration hell I think immigration is a good thing.  However we need to be smarter when it comes to immigration.  Especially when countries have a welfare state.  Would you be so care free about it if this was happening in another continent oh wait it is, it's Africa.  You don't care about Muslims destroying Africa??  You don't think that's a problem??  I know Europeans don't matter to you but what about the Africans??  You don't think we should learn from their mistakes??  Honestly at this point it's not so much about a specific culture it's simply wanting to avoid Islamic culture.  Hell let's bring Asian culture over here or quality culture from South America or Africa. Let's bring them in.  Why Islam??  With all the destruction it causes.  At the very least why not have better vetting in Europe?? In terms of Islam America has done pretty well. Let's not end up like Europe or even worse Africa.  Is that so much to ask??? Or racist??


You truley are ignorant.

He is not religious but he constantly praises christians and cries.
Now a big chunk of his listners go to church.

He has said that spanking does lower iq but he also has said that spanking a high iq child will give you a good piano player but spanking a low iq (black) child will give you a predator.
He says a lot of things. Pick whatever makes you feel good.

People like you will deny that stefan is dog whisling.
https://youtu.be/XOi5D9YcKOI
You say he is not racist but he pretty much has all the racist talking points.
His listners are racist because they ummm understand the meaning and are not autistic like you.
Racist wont admit it they always have a reason.
Science truth evidence.

Your right stefan doesnt out right say I want immigration by race.
But he implies it and  covers his ass by saying some bs before he makes a statement so people like you can feel good about supporing him.

Keep drinking the cool aid !
And donate fdr slash donate. The west needs you.

LMAO thank you sugar tits, you're ignorant too.

What is wrong with praising Christianity??   My goodness dude.

Actually a better way to look at it is Not spanking a child won't lower their IQ more.  However that doesn't mean their natural IQ level is going to be high.  Also the whole spanking in terms of a black child is when he was talking about the warrior gene.

LMAO oh stop it with the dog whistles.  Either someone is racist or they aren't.  Don't throw well he's dog whistling at me.  Give me a break man.

If it's true is it racist?? It may be racial but it's not racist.  You basically just admitted that it doesn't matter if something is true to you if it's something a racist would say.  Basically you're admitting facts don't matter to you.  Only feeling good because you don't believe the racist.

I've already watched that video and posted on it as well.  The username I used was Samachi.  That is one of the most ridiculous anti-stef videos I've ever seen.  He even at one point said it would be better if everyone turned Japanese.  Damn the white nationalism is off the charts there LMAO

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Re: Molyneux on Ruben Report. DeFOO and Cultism Discussed.
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2017, 09:53:29 PM »
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> LMAO oh stop it with the dog whistles.  Either someone is racist or they aren't.  Don't throw well he's dog whistling at me.  Give me a break man.


You truly are a Stefan listener.

You can't prove if someone is racist.

Stefan can't be racist because he is Canadian, so he uses dog whistles.
I can't prove it of course but anyone that is not a red pilled idiot will look at his videos and see what Stefan is doing.

If he wasn't dog whistling then why are his followers racist now ?
Why are they having kids and going to church ?
After all a couple years ago they didn't like kids because the world was bad and religion is fake.

He is milking your insecurity for money $$$.

> He even at one point said it would be better if everyone turned Japanese.  Damn the white nationalism is off the charts there LMAO

Are you retarded ?
Go outside and ask people If that is racist.


I doubt you are part of the master race you would be the first to die.
Remember that Australians, Italians, Scotts ... are white niggers.
Please do us a favor and go kill yourself.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2017, 09:55:41 PM by js66 »

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« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2017, 10:11:16 PM »
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> LMAO oh stop it with the dog whistles.  Either someone is racist or they aren't.  Don't throw well he's dog whistling at me.  Give me a break man.


You truly are a Stefan listener.

You can't prove if someone is racist.

Stefan can't be racist because he is Canadian, so he uses dog whistles.
I can't prove it of course but anyone that is not a red pilled idiot will look at his videos and see what Stefan is doing.

If he wasn't dog whistling then why are his followers racist now ?
Why are they having kids and going to church ?
After all a couple years ago they didn't like kids because the world was bad and religion is fake.

He is milking your insecurity for money $$$.

> He even at one point said it would be better if everyone turned Japanese.  Damn the white nationalism is off the charts there LMAO

Are you retarded ?
Go outside and ask people If that is racist.


I doubt you are part of the master race you would be the first to die.
Remember that Australians, Italians, Scotts ... are white niggers.
Please do us a favor and go kill yourself.

Thank you!! : )

How the hell not??  If someone says well that group of people are all scum.  They are racist.  It's pretty simple.

LMAO so basically what you are saying is you don't want to see the truth.  You want to live in your little fantasy world where everyone is the same AKA the blue pill.  Hey just like in the movie the matrix many people did make that decision.  I guess it's easier that way than facing reality.

LMAO all his followers are racist??  They are all having kids and  going to church.  I can attest I am doing none of that.

LMAO insecurities?? Please do elaborate I'd love to hear all about these insecurities you claim I have.

I didn't say it wasn't racist.  You said he was a white nationalist.  A white nationalists would never say it would be better to be Japanese.


What does that have to do with anything.  The first to die from what??

LMAO I don't believe in a master race, just different ones with their own unique pros and cons on average. However if there is a master race that race would be the Jewish race so yes I'm not a part of the master race because white people or even Aryans are not the master race not even close if you want to play the master race game. 

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Re: Molyneux on Ruben Report. DeFOO and Cultism Discussed.
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2017, 10:17:08 PM »
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I didn't say it wasn't racist.  You said he was a white nationalist.  A white nationalists would never say it would be better to be Japanese.


Are you this autistic ?
He can say that to make a point.
Openly White Nationalist racist people praise Japan constantly and use them as an example.

Only you know your insecurities. A high IQ person wouldn't be trolling forums.
A high IQ person won't be threatened by immigrants, they would probably benefit from it.
Only someone like you would be threatened.





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Re: Molyneux on Ruben Report. DeFOO and Cultism Discussed.
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2017, 12:34:48 AM »
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That false outrage and sadness at IQ differences in part 2 is hilarious --" It's just unbelievably heartbreaking. "This is one of the most difficult facts I've ever had to absorb in my life." I'd give my left arm for it to just be racism." He's so sad and heartbroken about it that he's done numerous shows exclusively highlighting IQ differences.

Right because it's true, you don't stop telling the truth simply because some people like yourself find it offensive.

I'm not offended by truth. In fact, I study philosophy in order that I might seek it better. Molyneux, however, is the last person I would trust to present the truth, just below politicians, lawyers, and used car salesmen.
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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2017, 08:54:39 AM »
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You keep mumbling off a lot without actually saying much?  Why is my fact checking terrible?? Because I haven't come to your conclusion??  Oh yeah please give me an example of this critical analyses that makes Stef's arguments fall apart.

Is your first sentence a question or a statement? Wait, never mind...

As to how I know your fact checking is terrible, that's because a) you've demonstrated it repeatedly in your short time on the board and b) almost every video Stef makes is littered with errors and misrepresentations, that basic critical fact checking will reveal.

You may not like his techniques and some may think he's cultish but the only thing that matters is the truth.  Is what is he saying true??  I've heard others say they don't like his "spin". Okay that's fine but a spin is comply an opinion of the factual data.

Kronze, you know how your hero sometimes goes off on people with bad grammar? Wait, never mind...

Someone providing a 'spin' is not a compilation of factual data, that word is typically reserved for people who are misrepresenting or twisting the truth for some political ideological/purpose.

Something no one here has been able to dispute.  He has not lied about the facts or data.  You just simply don't like the way he views the data.  I don't see how him having a different view then you makes him some awful guy.

He has lied about 'facts and data' repeatedly. There are tonnes of threads going back years on the forum detailing such lies. He barely does any independent research on the topics he talks about, he just lifts stuff from various partisan sources and puts them in graphs. I doubt Stefan has read even 1% of the reports that he cites his figures from.

That's your opinion and just like Stef you have every right to have it.  Even if I completely disagree.  However unlike I'm not going to go around trying to make you seem like some evil narcissistic person simply because we have different views.  Even if you do slander Stef a little much.  For the record I could say the same thing to you.  You simply despise what Stef has to say because of your biases.

Stef doesn't need me to make him seem like an insecure narcissist, it is self evident to anyone who watches his content critically. And yes, I do dislike Stef for what he says, because most of what he says is manipulative bipartisan nonsense and I am biased against that.

If you actually gave me some legitimate evidence to why Stef is such a bad guy I'd buy it. However you have done nothing of the sort.

Kronze, your posts make it clear that you are still so far deep down the Moly rabbit hole that there is nothing that anyone can say or show you that would make you change your mind. Moreover, it's not up to me to do your research for you. If you aren't willing or capable of doing your own critical independent research and identifying the problem with Molyneux's narrative, that is your problem- not mine. I feel sorry for you for buying into the personality cult of some random YouTube ideologue but I've no great desire to change your mind. You likely will do so, some years from now after you grow up.

Stef has got a whole group of people (people like you) watching and sharing his videos around the internet as he tells his listeners to do and you don't think Stef is some intellectual giant??

No I don't. Just like I don't think Paris Hilton's popularity is evidence that she is an intellectual with important things to say. Stef is a mildly successful YouTube ideologue, milking disenfranchised young males, the alt-right curious, and the Trump train demographics for all they are worth. And as for whether Stef enjoys being critiqued, I don't think so. He has displayed an incredibly thin skin when it comes to criticism and on sites he controls seeks to censor or dismiss pretty much any criticism that he can.

In regards to me personally- I've never been a follower of Stefan. I came across him and his drivel after a friend fell down his rabbit hole and started sharing. I have a professional interest in religious psychology and extremism, and a personal interest in critical thinking and skepticism, so his schtick proved interesting. And while I agree that Stef should be exposed and opposed, I also think he represents nothing more than a new bottling of some very old bad ideas. He is a snake oil salesman preying on vulnerable (mostly young) disenfranchised people. That's what makes communities like this one so important, as they demonstrate that there is always still hope for his followers and that those with doubts are not alone.
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