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Oliver Cromwell

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Anyone who reads Molyneux's Twitter will know that one of his favourite tropes is to blame feminism for the skyrocketing rate of depression and misery that women have faced since the 1970s. The 1950s, for Molyneux, was the time for women to be alive, when patriarchy was solid, when women stayed in the home and looked after the kids and remained in monogamous relationships. Ever since the sexual revolution, however, women have had more choice when it comes to partners, the freedom to pursue a career and not have to stay at home and look after a family, the freedom to have lots of casual sex with no social stigma attached, etc, and this is responsible for their misery, according to Molyneux.

Yet it is not feminism per se which is responsible for this. It is capitalism and neoliberalism. What we have seen since the 1970s is the triumph of market values over things like family, marriage, monogamy, etc. It is true that certain feminists have preferred to restrict themselves to fighting for emancipation under the capitalist system, which has created freedom for women on paper but in practice simply made them cogs in the great machine of capitalism. The main difference is that now they are almost equally free as men to be the type of cog they want, but they remain cogs all the same. Both men and women now mutually suffer the misery of working for exploitative capitalists. This is the cause of the skyrocketing rates of depression for both genders. Since women are more exploited than men, they suffer from higher depression rates. They have been liberated to enter the marketplace and pursue careers, but on top of this they do unpaid work in the form of childrearing, etc, which simply exacerbates the stress they already suffer. Who can blame them if they seek to unburden themselves as much as possible by dropping off their children at daycare centres, a practice Molyneux condemns so viciously?

Furthermore, the emancipation of women in the form of the removal of restrictions on women pursuing careers was not done because the powers that be cared about women's freedom. It was done because the capitalist system required more labourers. The capitalist system that Molyneux loves so much. The welfare state was designed to lessen the burden of unpaid, household work so that women had more free time to go out and work and produce wealth for the capitalists. Here, the state complements capitalism, it doesn't stand opposed to it. Women took up the opportunity to work because it guaranteed them some degree of financial independence from men, but it has had the long-term effect of increasing their dependence on the capitalist system as a whole, since they are how subject to market forces in a more direct way than before. Both men and women find themselves putting off relationships to pursue careers in the market that will allow them to sustain themselves. Women have suffered more from this sudden instability and precarity than men.

The 1950s was the Golden Age of capitalism. There was a global economic boom, living standards were at an all-time high, there was a large middle-class/high-income working-class families. Women could afford to simply stay home and not have to work. This was less true as time went on and it became harder to sustain a family with only one parent working, especially with the advent of neoliberalism. We cannot possibly return to that time, which is gone forever. Molyneux is longing for a world that has been lost for all time.

Molyneux can't have it both ways. He must choose. Does he want capitalism, or a socialist system which gives women the freedom to stay home and look after the children and not have to pursue a career to sustain themselves?
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Re: Molyneux just cannot bring himself to blame capitalism for anything.
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2018, 11:18:25 AM »
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The 1950s was the Golden Age of capitalism. There was a global economic boom, living standards were at an all-time high, there was a large middle-class/high-income working-class families. Women could afford to simply stay home and not have to work. This was less true as time went on and it became harder to sustain a family with only one parent working, especially with the advent of neoliberalism. We cannot possibly return to that time, which is gone forever. Molyneux is longing for a world that has been lost for all time.




Social conservatives make the same mistake of blaming only feminism while ignoring the effects of capitalism. While their mistake is more the result of following ideology, Molyneux's is because of stupidity. At least conservatives admit they are not philosophers.

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Re: Molyneux just cannot bring himself to blame capitalism for anything.
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2018, 12:04:51 PM »
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Capitalism, socialism, feminism, they are all just tools.  They are not bad -- it just depends on how you use them.  Clearly there's huge benefits to all of these things, when they are used carefully and without greed.  The problem of course is that all of these things are used for just that and to exploit people or the system. 

I remember back when Stef was having a pretty interesting discussion with a professor in the UK back in 2015.  The caller was asking why a company could not take less profit and pay their workers more.   Molyneux was arguing that those profits only exist because they have a great CEO.  Not always true, especially in the example he used.  He claims a major film studio will pay Brad Pitt $80 million because he provides more than $80 million in value.  The problem here is that films bomb and often make studios lose millions of dollars, even if a good actor is in the film.  Clearly the studio is sitting on that money before and can subtract it from their total money available.  He also said no one at the top of a company is paying themselves big bonuses.  I couldn't believe he would be so ignorant.  Does he not read what the owners of Wal Mart do?  Does he not keep up with that horrible woman CEO of EpiPen?  She paid herself a $16 million bonus.  Meanwhile, the product price increased from $50 to $600. 

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Re: Molyneux just cannot bring himself to blame capitalism for anything.
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2018, 07:05:52 AM »
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Does he not keep up with that horrible woman CEO of EpiPen?  She paid herself a $16 million bonus.  Meanwhile, the product price increased from $50 to $600.

Yeah, but she was a Woman™ (©Molyneux2018)