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Molyneux's Truth
« on: March 24, 2018, 12:59:45 PM »
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My short analysis of his recent video titled "Important! What you need to know about the truth!"
https://youtu.be/2L5tykWug0Y

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Re: Molyneux's Truth
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2018, 03:14:33 PM »
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He is not failing to understand anything, nor is he seeking correction.  Molyneux uses rhetoric to assert power and authority, not to communicate.  He knows it.  He’s doing it deliberately.  He damages language like other authoritarians and demagogues, using words to mean their opposite or in a repetitive, circular, meaningless word salad, especially words that convey ideals - “truth”, “reason”, “evidence”, etc.   …   

It’s meant to disorient his followers and take away their ability to communicate with others (which results in isolation).  The damage is difficult to recover from, because the listener becomes distrustful of the words after they have been manipulated by them, and the words become useless to convey the ideas and ideals they were meant to represent, and maybe even the ideals themselves.

This is an interesting discussion between a linguist and journalist about this subject:


@29:40 is the part I find most interesting, though the entire discussion is worth a listen:

https://youtu.be/bnUc5GVOQ4M?t=29m40s

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Re: Molyneux's Truth
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2018, 04:09:05 PM »
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Oh, he's doubtless not seeking correction and he knows how he's using rhetoric to twist the truth to fit his narrative. This is why any videos showing his contradictions and analyzing his blatant misuse of terms while calling himself a philosopher are quite needed, at least to represent to his fans that he does indeed engender thoughtful criticism and not mere trollish insults.

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Re: Molyneux's Truth
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2018, 05:30:49 PM »
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My short analysis of his recent video titled "Important! What you need to know about the truth!"
https://youtu.be/2L5tykWug0Y

Excellent video !

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Re: Molyneux's Truth
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2018, 07:39:45 PM »
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Thanks for watching.  :)

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Re: Molyneux's Truth
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2018, 11:46:03 PM »
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Did you ever think that perhaps the cult and authoritarians is actually main stream society and the people you support??  In sure Hitler would have called Stefan similar things to what you're calling him.

He is not failing to understand anything, nor is he seeking correction.  Molyneux uses rhetoric to assert power and authority, not to communicate.  He knows it.  He’s doing it deliberately.  He damages language like other authoritarians and demagogues, using words to mean their opposite or in a repetitive, circular, meaningless word salad, especially words that convey ideals - “truth”, “reason”, “evidence”, etc.   …   

It’s meant to disorient his followers and take away their ability to communicate with others (which results in isolation).  The damage is difficult to recover from, because the listener becomes distrustful of the words after they have been manipulated by them, and the words become useless to convey the ideas and ideals they were meant to represent, and maybe even the ideals themselves.

This is an interesting discussion between a linguist and journalist about this subject:


@29:40 is the part I find most interesting, though the entire discussion is worth a listen:

https://youtu.be/bnUc5GVOQ4M?t=29m40s

http://youtu.be/bnUc5GVOQ4M?t=29m40s