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« Reply #150 on: June 25, 2014, 09:33:25 PM »
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I think this got pretty off-topic and flamey.

I have to concur, though I've seen much worse. I'm not sure the expression "run wild" is entirely well understood sometimes...

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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #151 on: June 25, 2014, 10:38:16 PM »
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No, stop putting words in my mouth, you don't get it. You're even overlooking a whole lot of other crap I said. I'm saying that eugenics as a science has been officially discredited by scientists. I'm saying that there was a Eugenics Movement (tm) in the early 1900s that is now dead. I'm saying that if it's still slithering around in society, it isn't institutionalized the way it was in the early 1900s, and indeed most people would look at that and go, "hey that's wrong". I'm saying that feminism's fling with eugenics is a historical footnote. I'm saying that I don't need f*cking facts to believe that forced sterilization is morally wrong, and I would be batshit insane to call myself a feminist if I ever were to believe that. I'm saying that I don't need f*cking facts to believe that women should never ever ever have their bodies controlled by anyone, but themselves, and themselves only; to believe in bodily autonomy. To believe in that, you need to have empathy.

Just because scientist says so doesn't mean it doesn't exist.  Why are birth rates dropping?  Eugentic isn't just about forced sterilization.  There is other ways to reduce population.  For example many men no longer want to get married or have children.  Clearly you aren't see the big picture. 

One thing is for certain only time will tell.  Truth usually comes out eventually.

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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #152 on: June 26, 2014, 06:38:58 AM »
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Clearly you have done enough research.  We are about to have economic collapse.  Giving people money?  Who ends up paying for that?  The tax payers and guess what the tax payers are paying interest to the privatized banks.  So it's not really free money. 

When the world economy collapses a lot of people will end up being out of works and probably end up in the streets.


What research I have to do when I personally know lots of people who survive entirely on benefits they get for children?
they do not work anything besides f*ck and pop children every year and benefits they get are way higher than payments from any job they could ever get.

That is not a way to reduce population.
This is feminists destroying economy.

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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #153 on: June 26, 2014, 05:09:39 PM »
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Clearly you have done enough research.  We are about to have economic collapse.  Giving people money?  Who ends up paying for that?  The tax payers and guess what the tax payers are paying interest to the privatized banks.  So it's not really free money. 

When the world economy collapses a lot of people will end up being out of works and probably end up in the streets.



What research I have to do when I personally know lots of people who survive entirely on benefits they get for children?
they do not work anything besides f*ck and pop children every year and benefits they get are way higher than payments from any job they could ever get.

That is not a way to reduce population.
This is feminists destroying economy.


When other men see this they no longer want to have kids or marriage.  The number of men wanting marriage has gone down but the number of women wanting to get married has gone up. 

With men avoiding having children and marriage and when you abortion you have a great population control.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/helen-smith/8-reasons-men-dont-want-t_b_3467778.html


http://www.eastwestcenter.org/news-center/east-west-wire/declining-birth-rates-raising-concerns-in-asia
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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #154 on: June 26, 2014, 06:54:13 PM »
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When other men see this they no longer want to have kids or marriage.  The number of men wanting marriage has gone down but the number of women wanting to get married has gone up.
And who cares about men?
as long as women are pooping children population will be increasing.
who needs marriage when daddy government pays you way more than any average man can ever earn. women do not want to marry, they want work horse and bag of money and they got it from the state so men became obsolete.
By the way those women are not even alone they have boyfriends they just do not marry because state is much better husband than man.

Anyway paying benefits for children is is not sensible population control.
So your conspiracy theory about population reduction is utter nonsense or alternatively secret organization which is attempting to do that is made of completely incompetent baboons.

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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #155 on: June 26, 2014, 07:16:32 PM »
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When other men see this they no longer want to have kids or marriage.  The number of men wanting marriage has gone down but the number of women wanting to get married has gone up.

And who cares about men?
as long as women are pooping children population will be increasing.
who needs marriage when daddy government pays you way more than any average man can ever earn. women do not want to marry, they want work horse and bag of money and they got it from the state so men became obsolete.
By the way those women are not even alone they have boyfriends they just do not marry because state is much better husband than man.

Anyway paying benefits for children is is not sensible population control.
So your conspiracy theory about population reduction is utter nonsense or alternatively secret organization which is attempting to do that is made of completely incompetent baboons.



Show me how much a woman gets from the state if they have children.  Even if a guy isn't married to a woman he is required to pay child support. 



Recently the Kansas Department for Children and Families ordered Marotta to pay support for the three-year-old girl that was born after Bauer and Schreiner requested welfare earlier this year.

The state is said to have forced the women to reveal Mr Marotta’s identity after pressuring them to reveal who the biological father of the child was. The state declared the contract relinquishing him of financial responsibility void because the insemination was not performed by a certified doctor.
his is just one chilling example of how state interference into the private lives of people can have serious damaging consequences. The state basically forced Bauer and Schreiner to divulge information that was assumed to be safe and confidential, by threatening the couple.

But what if the couple did not know the identity of their donor? Would the state have refused medical coverage for their child then? What if they were a heterosexual couple? Would that have made any difference in the state’s decision? I tend to think that it would have been a much different situation had the couple not been a lesbian couple.

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/government-tyranny/sperm-donor-forced-to-pay-child-support/

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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #156 on: June 26, 2014, 08:10:49 PM »
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what you described here is irrelevant, Of course state will try to save money and extract it from someone else.
this is nothing different than tax money except that tax is placed on single man.

I live in Europe and here I know few women who get enormous sums of money for their children

while listening to Tom Leikis show from USA on you tube I noticed that US is more or less same situation. I don't know how US laws work on that regard but at least some people say that get plenty of money from that state.

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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #157 on: June 26, 2014, 08:37:10 PM »
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what you described here is irrelevant, Of course state will try to save money and extract it from someone else.
this is nothing different than tax money except that tax is placed on single man.

I live in Europe and here I know few women who get enormous sums of money for their children

while listening to Tom Leikis show from USA on you tube I noticed that US is more or less same situation. I don't know how US laws work on that regard but at least some people say that get plenty of money from that state.

You don't get it scares men from having children.  Don't you see it?

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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #158 on: June 27, 2014, 05:10:27 AM »
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You don't get it scares men from having children.  Don't you see it?
Most men are too stupid to be scared, they just don't know those laws and dangers.
Those who are smart have way more important reasons not to marry than those dangers.
People do not want children for many reasons and I am sure idea that "in case of divorce i will have to pay child support" reason is not the top one.



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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #159 on: June 27, 2014, 05:46:09 AM »
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You don't get it scares men from having children.  Don't you see it?
Most men are too stupid to be scared, they just don't know those laws and dangers.
Those who are smart have way more important reasons not to marry than those dangers.
People do not want children for many reasons and I am sure idea that "in case of divorce i will have to pay child support" reason is not the top one.


You still don't get it, child support to the extreme leaving a lot of men either homeless and broke to the extreme.  Of course  there is other reasons I haven't talked about.

I don't know what goes in Europe in USA and Canada it's a reality.

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« Reply #160 on: June 27, 2014, 11:13:06 AM »
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You still don't get it, child support to the extreme leaving a lot of men either homeless and broke to the extreme.  Of course  there is other reasons I haven't talked about.

I don't know what goes in Europe in USA and Canada it's a reality.

It is pretty much same everywhere.
while child support is complete disaster for man, it is equal disaster for woman. So  it would be unfair if father can just dump his child leaving woman alone to suffer.
Woman with child is also completely ruined and equivalent to homeless man because she has almost no chance to marry again or advance in her carrier.

in conclusion child support laws are not that bad as you describe, only problem is usual abuse when woman has more rights to manipulate system.
I guess it would be fair if man had to pay fixed sum of money independent from his income. that would prevent women from abusing system when  they trick some rich guy and enjoy great life later.





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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #161 on: June 30, 2014, 07:19:51 AM »
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You still don't get it, child support to the extreme leaving a lot of men either homeless and broke to the extreme.  Of course  there is other reasons I haven't talked about.

I don't know what goes in Europe in USA and Canada it's a reality.

It is pretty much same everywhere.
while child support is complete disaster for man, it is equal disaster for woman. So  it would be unfair if father can just dump his child leaving woman alone to suffer.
Woman with child is also completely ruined and equivalent to homeless man because she has almost no chance to marry again or advance in her carrier.

in conclusion child support laws are not that bad as you describe, only problem is usual abuse when woman has more rights to manipulate system.
I guess it would be fair if man had to pay fixed sum of money independent from his income. that would prevent women from abusing system when  they trick some rich guy and enjoy great life later.

Unless a woman is stay at home mom she should be fine. If men can live next to nothing even else can.  Look at Greece.

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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #162 on: June 30, 2014, 08:07:27 AM »
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Unless a woman is stay at home mom she should be fine. If men can live next to nothing even else can.  Look at Greece.

You have no clue what does it mean to raise child.

Of course if woman is alone she will be fine, but if she has child she cant work much because she needs to be at home, and she cant leave her child in some child care center because that is insanely expensive, she cant even date other men, her life is pretty much ruined.

So why do you suggest that man should get free out of that mess while woman is left completely ruined?

you can live next to nothing when you are alone, in the worst case you can sleep on the street and eat from the trash cans, however if you have child you cant live like that.

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« Reply #163 on: June 30, 2014, 08:19:25 AM »
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Unless a woman is stay at home mom she should be fine. If men can live next to nothing even else can.  Look at Greece.

You have no clue what does it mean to raise child.

Of course if woman is alone she will be fine, but if she has child she cant work much because she needs to be at home, and she cant leave her child in some child care center because that is insanely expensive, she cant even date other men, her life is pretty much ruined.

So why do you suggest that man should get free out of that mess while woman is left completely ruined?

you can live next to nothing when you are alone, in the worst case you can sleep on the street and eat from the trash cans, however if you have child you cant live like that.


We have this thing called day care.

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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #164 on: June 30, 2014, 08:26:47 AM »
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Women shouldn't have sex outside of marriage and considering 70% of women innate divorce who's problem is that?  Unless there's violence involved women should think twice of splitting up.

If women had higher standards and don't divorce out on a whim many men wouldn't need to contribute to child support.  In divorce there's split of assets anyways, unless there's massive debt there will be enough to live on.