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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #210 on: July 04, 2014, 07:57:47 PM »
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Well, I am done here. No more from me.

Pretty amazing show of patience, for what it's worth.
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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #211 on: July 04, 2014, 11:35:12 PM »
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Well, I am done here. No more from me.

Pretty amazing show of patience, for what it's worth.

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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #212 on: July 05, 2014, 11:40:55 AM »
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And I challenge to you find one area in our society where women are exclusively or disproportionately suffering.

Feminists are Socialists with panties (although I have much respect for that phrase) because they are necessitating the growth of the State by replacing real fathers at home with the Daddy State which will provide without being able to express any grievances or family standards.

"Kill All Men" - Apologized for as "Just a phrase".



So like a month later, I am much more equipped to address these conclusions. I am no longer shocked.

1) This is SO easy to do. A mere second of searching will find you something. Here: http://freethoughtblogs.com/blaghag/2012/02/women-should-just-keep-their-legs-shut-amirite/
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Because the great majority of abortions occur during the first 12 weeks, that means most women will be forced to have a transvaginal procedure, in which a probe is inserted into the vagina, and then moved around until an ultrasound image is produced. Since a proposed amendment to the bill—a provision that would have had the patient consent to this bodily intrusion or allowed the physician to opt not to do the vaginal ultrasound—failed on 64-34 vote, the law provides that women seeking an abortion in Virginia will be forcibly penetrated for no medical reason. I am not the first person to note that under any other set of facts, that would constitute rape under state law.


2) As I've already said, I'm an anarchist feminist (libertarian socialist) which means that I don't want a State because I don't trust it to represent my causes, nor anyone else's except the capitalist, ursury-practicing elite and the almighty dollar/pound/euro/etc. Feminism will do just fine without a State, possibly better in my opinion. Oh yeah, I'm a socialist, no lie, but no state for me. But that aside, as I said before, the vast majority of feminists are liberals or social democrats. They want the State to fulfill certain functions, but they certainly don't want fathers to be replaced as that has never been the goal (and I doubt it's been the outcome). Instead they want to legalize abortion and gay marriage, criminalize rape of all kinds including marital rape, equalize the opportunities (more woman CEOs and women in STEM fields for example), make birth control accessible, and in America's case elect the first female president of the US. There are probably more but you get the idea. The point is that feminists are fighting to make women more independent from men, and that's a good thing. This whole thing about a Daddy state could apply to anyone who wants politicans to take care of them. If you're supporting any kind of legislation at all. The state certainly takes liberty to do what it wants, even despite massive protests. Anyway if you think it's bad for women to be independent from men, such as a wife from her husband, you have serious control issues.

3) Yep turns out #killallmen is a joke, sarcasm. And yes while rape jokes are jokes... Each of these jokes have different causes, motives, and outcomes. If you know anything about humor, you would recognize that jokes work on different people, rely on the context of what happened prior, have different meanings, that funny relies on a number of devices (irony, surprise, vice, tension, wordplay, reality and myth, timing, taking yourself less seriously, actual cultural and political circumstances)... No one actually wants to kill all men, and the fact that you would take it seriously is funny. MRAs are the butt of the joke. Meanwhile, plenty of people of both genders (but mostly women) get raped all the f*cking time. An MRA should at least be able to appreciate the wrongness of a rape joke because of the pervasiveness of men getting raped in prison.

That sums it up I think. (If Omega responds, I will not. If Zetaman responds, I might. Don't know about MikeTO.)
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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #213 on: July 05, 2014, 12:22:55 PM »
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Now that's funny feminist doesn't need the state.  Look at the funding feminism receives, that's not includes the states made laws for women. LOL

The state is controlled by the 1%.  If we want to control the state (we as in we the people).  We need to make into law it make it illegal for person or organization to donate more than X amount of dollars.  I say no more than $500 then this kind of thing wouldn't happen.  It's not the state it's the politicians that doing the bad thing.  Huge difference.

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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #214 on: July 05, 2014, 12:25:43 PM »
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There was another thing that I wasn't feeling complete about:

And what's wrong with calling a person a bitch? Are you seriously going to tell me that this is a form of oppression? What about the women that call women a bitch? Oh wait, that's internalised sexism lol. Maybe the men who call women bitches instinctively feel the game is stacked against them and that's the best they can do. They can't hit them for some reason nobody has been able to explain yet. If a man gives another man grief, the man receiving said grief kicks the crap out of the other man... so generally grief isn't given under threat of violence - and that's how it should be. But when a woman gives a man grief in full knowledge she won't have to suffer a tangible backlash, all that man can do is "verbally assault" her.

Right because he is (cue crocodile tears) unjustly forbidden from physically assaulting her!

Bitch is an inherently gendered insult, and the only way it can be used in a way that is not sexist is to turn it into a compliment.

Assault is just wrong.

Hey hey maybe, maybe, "the men who call women bitches" are trying to put them down, to assert their sense of male superiority! Crazy idea I know.
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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #215 on: July 05, 2014, 12:35:55 PM »
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Now that's funny feminist doesn't need the state.  Look at the funding feminism receives, that's not includes the states made laws for women. LOL

The state is controlled by the 1%.  If we want to control the state (we as in we the people).  We need to make into law it make it illegal for person or organization to donate more than X amount of dollars.  I say no more than $500 then this kind of thing wouldn't happen.  It's not the state it's the politicians that doing the bad thing.  Huge difference.

As usual MikeTO, you did not properly comprehend my post. Just saying.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that supporting reforms to stop the 1% from controlling everything makes you a liberal? I'm cool with stuff like Occupy, but my political opinions are in the minority; I'm for change outside of the traditional political channels. Call me cynical, because I am. If you can achieve the reforms, great, but I have no faith. Most feminists support exactly what you are proposing. I even went ahead and signed a petition to do just what you are suggesting, even though I feel like the politicians won't listen and maybe I'm on a list somewhere because of it. Anyway, this political stuff is a tangent.
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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #216 on: July 05, 2014, 02:17:47 PM »
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Hillary Clinton, State Feminist?
http://breakthrough.tv/article/hillary-clinton-state-feminist/

What you don't seem to understand the feminist get funding from the state.  If you doubt that do your research.
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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #217 on: July 05, 2014, 02:22:55 PM »
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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #218 on: July 05, 2014, 02:50:54 PM »
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As just one example of this, many academics who rely on government funding are going to drum up evidence to support the government's point of view, or their funding is going to disappear.)

And, just as importantly, these millions of workers will also provide and promote political propaganda that is designed to serve themselves; with these government workers now so entrenched in almost every area of life that their propaganda nowadays pours into the minds of the population from almost every information source imaginable - even at school.

(Furthermore, of course, many billions of these dollars go directly into providing social welfare of some kind; thus ensuring that the millions of people who benefit from this will vote for left-wing government.)

The upshot is that the population is mostly nowadays very heavily infected with the view that policies that promote bigger and more powerful government are the best policies for the people; and so, of course, the people tend to vote for them.

But the people are being hoodwinked, because they are not being told the truth. They are being deluged with self-serving propaganda from many self-serving sources, and the evidence that these sources are deceiving them on numerous fronts, and in very many ways, is just irrefutable.


http://www.angryharry.com/esWhyGovernmentsLoveFeminism.htm

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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #219 on: July 05, 2014, 03:00:27 PM »
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The "Patriarchy" is the Plutocracy and it's Funding Feminism!

When big changes happen,  follow the money.  Feminist  funding comes from big foundations. Google "Women's Studies" and Rockefeller Foundation and you'll get 132,000 links. Google "Women's Studies" and Ford Foundation and you'll get 217,000 links. Carnegie Foundation yields 197,000 links. They frequently acknowledge foundation funding and expose a massive social engineering program designed to reduce population, emasculate men and undermine the institutions of marriage & family.

Yet, horror to tell, these foundations are dominated by men, not women. Feminism, ostensibly dedicated to "smashing the Patriarchy," is bankrolled by the Patriarchy.

    * A 1990 report by Women and Foundations/Corporate Philanthropy found that 23% of foundations surveyed had no women or people of color as trustees. Furthermore, women of color made up only 5% of all foundation trustees.
    * 71% of foundation members are male. A similar bias exists among foundation directors. At 14%, women are better represented among chief executive officers of foundations, but they tend to head the smaller foundations. The largest independent foundations are headed by men.

If you take the time to really trace NGO funding, the faces change from radical chic hell raiser women gradually into very old white men.

Feminists drawing large salaries in universities and NGO's, all have these unseen sugar daddies.  The rank and file don't know this. They're too busy picking on men who don't pull any more strings in this culture than they do.

I'll show you how to check it out yourself.  First, you'll need the Grants Foundation Index. Using this you can look up foundations and see where their money goes.

Start with an organization's website and where possible, find who funds them, and the list of their board.  Save to a notepad or word.doc.   When you've collected a lot of donors names, most you won't recognize, some you will, but you'll see names crop up over and over again.  They're not all American names either listed on these US foundations.  You'll find many names listed in Who's Who in America consisting of mostly Anglo-Americans, Jews, and a smattering of Spanish, German, Italian, Japanese, and some Russian.  But nationalities don't matter.  What binds them more powerfully is that they're all Plutocrats.
http://www.henrymakow.com/the_real_patriarchy_is_plutocr.html

Yes sir the elite few funds femism.  Patriarchy at it's best? LOL

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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #220 on: July 05, 2014, 03:47:07 PM »
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Yes sir the elite few funds femism.  Patriarchy at it's best? LOL

You are absolutely right here, and not only funding, but everything else is done by men,
while feminists can only cry and show their titties.

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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #221 on: July 05, 2014, 04:20:07 PM »
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...while feminists can only cry and show their titties.

You're really catching me in a bad mood, today. Sorry, but here it comes.

This forum was created for respectful discussion based on reason and evidence.  If you want to make these kind of hateful comments about women, please go to Freedomain Radio where you'll be welcomed. If you continue on this path here, you're going to find your privileges suspended.
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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #222 on: July 05, 2014, 04:45:37 PM »
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MikeTO, again, you're not understanding what I said. Nothing for me to comment on.

However... There is one thing. I hope it's obvious that the fact that the world is run by older white men is a symptom of Patriarchy.
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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #223 on: July 05, 2014, 05:21:15 PM »
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...while feminists can only cry and show their titties.


You're really catching me in a bad mood, today. Sorry, but here it comes.

This forum was created for respectful discussion based on reason and evidence.  If you want to make these kind of hateful comments about women, please go to Freedomain Radio where you'll be welcomed. If you continue on this path here, you're going to find your privileges suspended.


I think my comment was completely reasonable and based on evidence. Also it is not directed towards anyone here in personal.

If someone think that I am wrong they can provide any appropriate evidence to prove that feminists actually did something besides things I mentioned.

here is my example to prove my claims
http://sotomayortv.com/africanizedbeastie/
Mother left baby on hot asphalt in the middle of the street and other women only cried and argued with that mother but none of them went to take that baby or even call police and left it to cook there for 45 minutes. 

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Re: But Feminists ARE Socialists with panties!
« Reply #224 on: July 06, 2014, 05:10:30 AM »
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I think my comment was completely reasonable and based on evidence. Also it is not directed towards anyone here in personal.

If someone think that I am wrong they can provide any appropriate evidence to prove that feminists actually did something besides things I mentioned.

here is my example to prove my claims
http://sotomayortv.com/africanizedbeastie/
Mother left baby on hot asphalt in the middle of the street and other women only cried and argued with that mother but none of them went to take that baby or even call police and left it to cook there for 45 minutes.

Before clicking the link, I was going to tell you that one news article about one incident is not sufficient to support the claim that no feminist has ever accomplished anything of significance.

The irony is that you have linked to the website of a man who (as far as I can tell from crawling through Google's results about him) is a misogynist racist who cherry-picks incidents involving black women to use as a springboard for his hate speech. The very thing you're trying to prove you are not doing.

I sincerely hope that you are not allowing this person to shape your worldview. Stefan Molyneux looks like a saint in comparison.

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