“...I need convincing that Molyneux even HAS philosophical views to debunk. He's mostly an endless daily vomiting of personal grievances mixed with justifications for treatment of others as worthless inferiors.”--Money Detonator
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And I challenge to you find one area in our society where women are exclusively or disproportionately suffering.
Omega, I could just as easily myself say that Feminists in my eyes are nothing more than traumatized VAGINAS, hurt by society (due to unreasonably high standards) and have now turned to the dark side and now they are.... oh wait.. hang on. They already did that part. Nvm.
Society as a whole is uncomfortable for men
I know you don't give a shit about the Betas, omega. But some of these MGTOW do. In my estimation, they're better Human Beings than you are. No offence. But if I had a choice of who to save I'm letting your ass drown.
Everyone Else - I read an article here that pissed me off. The title of which was inspired by "Moly" (as I see some refer to him as, and I will from now on for short-hand), and this thread is named after that article. It displayed very bitter sentiments from men. No questions are ever asked why a man might feel the need to say such things, yet when a Feminazi expresses her desire to rid the world of men via eugenics the excuse is that she was abused and is now bitter. To disregard the grievances (no matter how they're expressed) on the basis of ideology is a sin and nothing short of cruelty. I now offer my fellow men, and women with eyes with which to read, to redeem themselves from this offense towards Humanity.
Do you think that belittling a groups point of view is an effective way to put forward your own point of view or that 2 wrongs make a right?
Quote from: Phil on March 23, 2014, 11:09:12 PMDo you think that belittling a groups point of view is an effective way to put forward your own point of view or that 2 wrongs make a right?In order for me to belittle something it first has to have value. And with all due respect, that line about two wrongs making a right is shit brains. What wrong am I doing? QUESTIONING FEMINISM?I'm not going to bother my sweet mind by picking parts out of something I disagree with entirely. It's the spirit of ignorance in-which the Feminist response and QuestEon's article was written in that I have a problem with. Please also bear in mind that I have a lot of respect for QE in all other concerns.There's a delusion that has pervaded the minds of men and women alike that in today's world the woman is a victim by default, and in response there is a social movement and mentality (all gradients of which I take issue with) that ultimately serve to widen the divide between the genders and put men at an increasing disadvantage.If we want to play the game of "which gender is oppressed" or "the most oppressed" (since we all have it hard in this society), then it is indisputably men who are the oppressed gender. That is my statement, and given that it is fact, the onus is on you to pose arguments. I assure you that I'll shoot each one down with ease.So let's have it.
But you're completely right, Omega. Women want the entire world to be remodeled into a womb where they can be eternally nurtured.
As man I think fighting in war is way better than taking care of baby, because that is super boring. yes of course war is uncomfortable but still uncomfortable in good way where you can fulfill yourself and get appropriate reward you want.”
I was driving through suburbia to spend time with family. A somewhat regular sight is to see a woman jogging down the wasteland corridors between housing developments. This is a great sight to see. People taking care of themselves. But I'm also aware that a blink of an eye ago in our evolution, if a woman tried that she runs an alarming risk of being eaten by an animal, have her wealth stolen, be captured by a rival tribe, get raped, or many other horrible things. But she's in this womb, in this delusional land where everything is at peace, while men are sent out to die in wars and other endangering jobs to maintain this tranquility.
while men are sent out to die in wars and other endangering jobs to maintain this tranquility.
It is possible to be an advocate for one group without adversely affecting the other; win/lose approaches never work well in the long term
Thanks for clarifying what it is that I want Zetaman. What is it that men want?
I could take his comment and say that all men want to do is to fight and kill, but I know that's not true and wouldn't presume to make such a sweeping statement as to attribute the traits of some, to half the World's population.
You are admitting here that you are making up these definitions of men/women/masculinity/femininity yourself, and trying to fit reality to it. Your ideas are not based on reality, or the real behavior of men and women, because if something contradicts your flawed definitions, you simply re-categorize it, as if your personal biases matter more than someone's real biology and real behavior.This is something delusional people do to distort reality.
There is not such thing as real behavior of men and women because everyone is different.
It would be nice to see more females who fit male stereotypes and are focused on domination instead of procreation.
Are you speaking for all men or just yourself (using a royal "we")? If you (or others) truly believe men want this sort of thing, shouldn't it make sense that all people would be more afraid of men/ other men than women or "feminists"?
The reason I don't believe that you are ok with people making their own choices is that you don't seem ok with the choices they're making right now.
So to summarise your points on this thread #Omega; Men want superiority and domination.Winning and domination are masculine traits.Modern war is very "feminine" because it lacks any action or heroism.some women should be regarded as men not women, because they lack femininity and behave like stereotypical men.Women want a safe society where they just work like ant.And your points from another thread; http://www.fdrliberated.com/forum/index.php?topic=700.0 Woman live in world of delusions, and don't care about truth.They like to build their world as imitation.You have to lie to women to get their love.They usually just want affirmation.Woman reject sources of uncomfortable information. And your point from your last post:Quote from: Omega on March 28, 2014, 11:50:48 AMThere is not such thing as real behavior of men and women because everyone is different.Do you see what you did there?
- no, it would evolutionarily ridiculous
Elucidated also complains that she is afraid of being raped.
I do not like current situation because I just cant find any female friends, since all females I meet are incompatible. I want female which cloud be my friend in my quest of world domination not some housekeeper or sex doll.